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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7753

hi there,

i have analysed the music of prodigy from the beginning. to me, the beats are very groovy and fat! if you recunstruct them, you will notice that there are not many instruments in but it is still fat!

for me it would be interesting how they create them, in a step-sequencer, live or just with cubase/logic ?

what do you think?
best greetz from germany
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7808

i wrote into computer music magazine and they give me a step by step guide, for creating prodigy drums in reason.
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7815

The first stuff was made on drum machines and still they're used for the gigs...

And making fat beats with less stuff ain't that hard to do, I've been doing that stuff since the beginning of the 00's
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7872

I read somewhere Liams method is rare in that he plays it all in himself, rather than looping bits over etc.
I can't remember which site the article was on sorry. The one with the quote of someone saying they saw him making it and was amazed at his method. That he is a musical genious like Mozart was.
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7885

I'll paraphrase something that was said on this board before the crash...

"It's Liams shit. Don't bother. We suck."
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7887

Deviant_Tech wrote:
"It's Liams shit. Don't bother. We suck."

Hahaha ...true.
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7889

memphis wrote:
Deviant_Tech wrote:
"It's Liams shit. Don't bother. We suck."

Hahaha ...true.


Ok, thirded.
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7890

Em wrote:
I read somewhere Liams method is rare in that he plays it all in himself


what do you mean?

i notice that liams beats even though programmed and sampled have a somewhat natural feel to them. they dont sound like something you'd get messing around with reason for a while. i'd so love to know how he does it but i know i never will.
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7894

yup yup, i think messin' around will be the only way for the ungifted, as we call ourselves

by the way, any drummers here?
i allways loved to play some unusual beats on my set and for a half year or something i try to play beats as some that could be used for a liam sample. poison stuff as you like.
ideas are swirring in my head, ideas of a "new prodigy". more natural, a real band with a sample-man and the electro-punk-genre.
unfortunately nobody's with me, at least someone nearby
ah, and all the money for the synths and drum microphones and all that jazz.
how is a student as i supposed to live his musical dreams.
either casino or sell some love
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7896

Start selling meth. You'll make tons of cash.

Back to the topic... back in the day on the W-30, it is said Liam would tap everything in by hand for the whole song, even down to the hihats, just to get a little play on the velocity of the samples and give it that more natural feel. I think that's what you're talking about Cossack.
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7898

Ah right. but wouldnt it be awkward playing drums on a normal keyboard?

If you want variation in velocity you can easily change the velocity values in your sequencer .. something I often do .. usually just random up and down changes so not every hit has the same velocity .. but yea I guess its more natural to do it yourself .. but I cant imagine anyone handling kicks, hihats and snares on a normal keyboard and getting a beat goin. Maybe uses one of those electronic drum kit things?
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7900

I'm a drummer..and i do my beats the same way. Its not difficult Cossack, as tapping the keys on a midi keyboard is no different to actually tapping the drums/hi-hats etc.

And funki_fist..I'd join your band....but it would be only 2 drummers
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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7902

Maybe this is liams secret technique for making beats:

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grooving drums 6 years, 9 months ago #7910

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